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Old 08-01-2007, 08:08 AM
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Write a concerto for whistler and orchestra discussion

Music-Web has got a new member with a challenge: David Morris world champion whistler, suggests that he would like to have a whistling concerto written for him here.

I suggest that the concerto doesn’t have to be too long (can be one movement only), and that it should be worth a listen also with soloist and piano only.

The price: Having your music played by the world leading whistler!



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Old 08-01-2007, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
Music-Web has got a new member with a challenge: David Morris world champion whistler, suggests that he would like to have a whistling concerto written for him here.

I suggest that the concerto doesn’t have to be too long (can be one movement only), and that it should be worth a listen also with soloist and piano only.

The price: Having your music played by the world leading whistler!


I agree Thorolf.

Imagine the publicity for this site when the Whistler gives information on where and how it was created.

Come on you composers, get cracking and lets see the results, please!
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:07 PM
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Has he said that he would perform the piece then Thorolf?
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:44 PM
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^ Not explicitly, Boneman, but he stated this:
Originally Posted by WHISTLINGCHAMP View Post
My range is around two and a half octaves and no I'm not aware of any concerto written for a whistler, would be great!
I highly doubt that mr. Morris would have written that, unless he was interrested in performing one… …given that the concerto was well written, in a size and style that could fit his regular performances.



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Originally Posted by Jonty View Post
I agree Thorolf.

Yes, my avatar is a true realistic picture - how awesome is this?
Monitor-Merrimac Bridge-Tunnel - Virginia USA
Not so much when you have to drive across it every day. If you were looking south in this picture, my house would be on the horizon on the right.

For me, the Chunnel is far more interesting!

Actually, I don't drive through it every day. We have 5 tunnels in this area: The world's longest - Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, then Hampton Roads B-T, the Monitor-Merrimac B-T (check you Civil war (American) history for ironclads), and what we lovingly refer to as the "Downtown tunnel" and the "Midtown tunnel". The MT is the only one not connected to a bridge, the oldest, and the only 1 that's 2 lanes. I drive through this one everyday. On Monday, our first day of school, it took me an hour in traffic to get through the tunnel alone. It's about a 20 minute drive to school, only less than 3 of which is spent in this short tunnel at 35 mph - but at snail's pace, takes much longer - arrrrgh!

Our morning traffic reports always say the same thing - all the tunnels are backed up - except the Monitor-Merrimac Bridge Tunnel (the one you have pictured). They're talking about building yet another one between Hampton and Norfolk (for you UKers, Virginia has a lot of English city names (of course so do other States) - Virginia comes from Virgin Queen, we have Essex, Sussex, Norfolk, Suffolk, Portsmouth, Williamsburg, William and Mary college, Prince George County, etc. etc.).

Nice to see our little neck of the woods getting a little ad time :-)

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Old 11-01-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
^ Not explicitly, Boneman, but he stated this:
I highly doubt that mr. Morris would have written that, unless he was interrested in performing one… …given that the concerto was well written, in a size and style that could fit his regular performances.



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I don't know who wrote the quote Thorolf is quoting, but there are many whistling virtuosi in the world (not like violinists, but it's not like there's only one). There was a famous one back in the 1940s or 50s. Someone famous like Samuel Barber, Roy Harris, or someone of that caliber wrote a concerto (or similar work for whistle solo and orchestra) specifically for this guy. I heard it a couple of years ago on NPR (it's funny, I can remember exactly where I was and even which way my car was facing in the parking lot, but I can't remember anything about the composer or performer - that's how my mind works (or doesnt' work)).

I think he also apparently worked in Hollywood and did a lot of movie work. So I'm thinking he might have been famous from the 1930s through the 1950s or 60s maybe. Anyone know?

I'm going to make another post though, hold on...

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Old 11-01-2007, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
Music-Web has got a new member with a challenge: David Morris world champion whistler, suggests that he would like to have a whistling concerto written for him here.

I suggest that the concerto doesn’t have to be too long (can be one movement only), and that it should be worth a listen also with soloist and piano only.

The price: Having your music played by the world leading whistler!



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May I make a suggestion here (I'm going to anyway!):

In reading through these posts, it looks like Mr. Morris may have just been being nice by responding, though he could genuinely like to have a concerto written for him.

However, I don't think he wants to be inundated with a bunch of crap, or with a bunch of pieces he isn't capable of performing (wrong range), or doesn't prefer the style of, etc. I know I wouldn't want my inbox full of PDF files from composers of god knows what level from a casual mention of something in a post.

Now, I think it IS a good challenge Thorolf has proposed, and would be worth working on even if there's no promise of Mr. Morris ever performing it (just composing anything is always good skill-building).

But, what I would suggest is, if Mr. Morris is serious, then maybe some elected representative (Thorolf, I elect you :-) contact Mr. Morris and tell him that his comment has sparked interest, and many users might like to write concerto for him. If he agrees, a few factors should be taken into account:

The human whistle is a lot like voice, though it's not something most people are familiar with except through their own whistling (and some people whistle in, some out, some both, some by tongue, some by teeth, etc.).

2.5 octave range isn't good enough.

Anyone interested should know Mr. Morris' exact range. It would also be helpful to know what kind of technical limitations there are - speed, duration, dynamics, etc. (I know a lot of this stuff could also be gleaned from listening to his recordings by the way). It would also be helpful to know if there's any endurance limitations - a 15 minute movement might be too much, or might require significant breaks. Also, any stylistic limitations - you don't want to send him some avant garde atonal work if he's not into that (his taste appears classical, and flight of the bumblebee should be an indication of virtuosity).

He may have room for four or 5 works in his repretoire. He might want one big concerto, or he might be willing to entertain shorter works or works for smaller ensembles (as Thorolf suggests, but doesn't confirm).

I'm not trying to be a naysayer, but my point is: If you want to write something like this for your own edification, that's fine, but don't expect a performance (though it could happen). If you want to write this expecting Mr. Morris specifically to perform it, I would make sure you get the details so you don't waste your or his time in writing something totally off kilter.

I'd be interesting in writing something, but with the information I currently see, I can't inverst the time without further details.

Best,
Steve
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I contacted Mr. Morris by mail, and he is indeed interrested in helping us on. His answer:
Hello Thorolf,

Nice to hear from you and it's good to see that some members are keen to compose a concerto for Whistler.

Being a former Champion Cornet player of Gt Britain I clearly lean to the style of the trumpet concerto, two of the most popular, the Haydn and Hummel being favourites of mine. I am more of a traditionalist and not into avant garde.

My range is an octave either side of middle C on the piano rising a fifth to the G. I don't do multiphonics but double and triple tonguing are no problem. I have no preference of accompaniment type, orchestra/piano, whatever. My main concern as a soloist in concerts is always the sound system for obvious reasons. Whistling through the lips as opposed to using fingers is not a loud product and therefore is always totally dependant on the sound engineer and equipment. So far in my professional career I'm pleased to say that the good ones have far outnumbered the bad ones!

So, I hope there is enough information there for you and the members and I look forward to the response.

Best Wishes, David
So, just compose away: If it’s good, and not avant-garde, it seems you have a good chance of getting it played.

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Old 15-01-2007, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
I contacted Mr. Morris by mail, and he is indeed interrested in helping us on. His answer: So, just compose away: If it’s good, and not avant-garde, it seems you have a good chance of getting it played.

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Thanks for taking the time to look into this for us Thorolf!

Steve

Have to go listen to some Hummel :-)
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