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05-01-2007, 04:53 PM
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| Little Piano Piece Hi All, Even though the pieces I've heard on this section are far better than my own I still want to present a little piece I've made for piano. To put it into perspective: I'm a first grade piano player with hardly any musical theory handy, so it's bound to be full of beginners errors I suspect. Nevertheless, I hope you will give me your wisdom. I've included the finale-score as the mp3 sounds terrible and, if you know places where I can correct things, the actual score might help too I thought. Thanks in advance for your time and wisdom, Peter P.S. here's the sendspace link for the mp3 file : http://www.sendspace.com/file/ftebt5 Last edited by PeterG : 07-04-2008 at 01:01 PM.  |
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#2
05-01-2007, 05:35 PM
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| Wow! Very nice! Any you say it's your first or second composition?! Anyway, The harmony is actually pretty good, though someone with more theory than I have can probably tell better. One idea, this theme might go very well as a fugue or canon, so if you have any knowledge of how one writes a fugue (there's a nice thread about it here), or if you just want to try and write one, I think it would be a very nice theme to work with. I also made a PDF out of the score, so people without Finale can see it to. If you want to learn how to do it yourself, there's info about it in this thread. Keep Composing, Ron Ofir. |
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#3
05-01-2007, 07:23 PM
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| Nice piece. It has some baroque flavour (Scarlatti) The only remark I can make is that sometimes the harmonies (for example short after 1'23") sound a bit thin (with for example only a doubled third and fifth of the chord). And there indeed are some remarkable harmonic progressions (I guess my harmony teacher at college would say that they are "wrong" from a classical harmonical viewpoint - but nobody says you got to write classical harmonical progressions). keep up the good work, bye frederik |
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05-01-2007, 08:48 PM
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| Hi, man, nice subject, and good development in the beginning of the piece. As the composition is rather classically slanted, I suppose you aim for it to be a classical composition. In this respect, it has a serious flaw, namely that all the energy from the initial modulation to b minor in bar 11 is not followed up in any way. The rest of the piece stays harmonically firmly in a minor, with an occational leap to C major, but always quickly back to a minor via E major. This makes it harmonically static, and doesn’t serve the piece any good, either as an attempted classical composition, or just “as is” as just any music. If you balance out the activity composing variations, with new activity playing in other keys for more than a couple of mesures, you could have a good piece.  Regards |
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#5
05-01-2007, 10:34 PM
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| Oops, just figured out I forgot to upload the pdf... |
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06-01-2007, 05:22 PM
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| Hi there! this is a nice piece. A very fun sounding piece as well. I don't have anything extra to say other than I completely agree with Thorolf. You have the makings of a very good piece! |
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09-01-2007, 11:22 AM
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| Thanks, this is indeed helpful! Hi All, Thanks so much for taking the time to listen to this little piece. Ron: actually, it's my 5th composition (which is why it's called "5" ;-) ). I like melodies that may fold into themselves and/or create canon. Initially I wanted to make this a piece for more different instruments as I can hear all kinds of possibilities withthis theme to fit into each other, but.... then I never can play it myself, so in stead I tried to capture the thoughts into this piano piece. My absolute favorite example of a melody that will fold in itself in the left hand is the 3rd movement of Mozart piano concerto nr.5 in D (KV175). Fantastic! Frederik: right on the mark with the Baroque feeling; this must originate from my oboe times as I had a very strong preference for baroque at the time because of it's firm structures. Now, 25 yrs later my absolute favorite composer is Mozart but also Bach and baroque are still present in my head. Listening back I agree with you that it sounds thin; I'm not sure how to solve that actually as I cannot imagine how one should play the piece if I add another bass-melody or more chord-notes in the left hand. Perhaps when my skills on the piano grow? For this moment I'm all ears to suggestions to improve it. Thorolf: uhm, bar11? I thought the first key change was in measure 13 and I believe you when you say it's B, didn't know that but it sounded good. Actually the two key changes were only to get me to the key that I use in measure 17 (is that C major?) but once I got there I had this feeling of: going round and round in the same theme so I got myself a new theme which then was in the minor key again (in measure 21). Would you suggest I extend the parts where the key was changed first? To all of you: can you suggest some good reading / books in which I can pick up some composing theory? Is there an idiot's guide to composing and if yes, is it any good? Again thanks, Peter |
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09-01-2007, 02:47 PM
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You’re indeed on the right track when you see that something new has to be added @ measure 21. I just suggest that choosing something that goes to a-minor so quickly makes it seem as there were no real modulation, and that you really just stayed in a-minor. If you had managed to stay away from E-major-to-a-minor for more than two measures, it might have worked. But as it sounds, it stalls. So what to do: You have the choice of either to return to a minor for just a short break (up to 24), and then, choose another key for a considerable amount of time, not hinting @ a-minor at all for a while. Or snip it off @ 21 (or even 17) and simply go somewhere else harmonically. Regards |
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#9
11-01-2007, 07:41 AM
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| Little Piano Piece Hi Peter, I enjoyed your music. Reminds me of Bach invention. I thought maybe you could become a little more complex (continous sixteenths) in both voices before you returned to the opening theme. I guess I was looking for more tension before it ended. You are a thousand miles beyond me when I was a first grade student. Thanks for sharing, Write some more, Joe |
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#10
11-01-2007, 09:27 AM
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| Hello Joe, Thanks for those kind words. I struggled with the end; I wasn't sure how to proceed and was more or less done with the theme at the time. Originally I planned a lot more, but then suddenly had a need to finish it. I guess you noticed that. I could think of more "Bachian" complexity but didn't want to make it mathematical. I even briefly considered re-writing it for more instruments but this would kill the opportunity to play it myself (some day, no way I can play this any time soon!). Perhaps I'll take it to hand again and work with all the comments I got so far... Again thanks for your comments. Peter P.S. I am writing some more, in fact I have a 3-piece suit in F I'm working on... Quite different from this one Last edited by PeterG : 11-01-2007 at 09:28 AM. Reason: forgot the P.S. |
